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Archibald Tuttle

33. · 22.06.2010 21:13
Stoll joined the development of the Steyr AUG.

The bullet should be later made of steel with some molykote on it and the case out of laquered steel. The cheapest possible solution for the ammunition with a simple blowback SMG. The cartidge is quite long with a length of 50 mm. But early AUG designs show a UZI-style magazine although the 5.56x45 mm is 55 mm long. Maybe a little optimistic for smaller soldiers. The 9x19 mm for example is 30 mm long and even the 4.6x30 mm is only 38,5 mm.

The first prototype was a modified UZI, but later developments at Steyr Mannlicher lead to the Steyr MP69, after the .30 Stoll project was already finished.
world.guns.ru/smg/smg45-e.-htm


Archibald Tuttle

32. · 22.06.2010 21:12
case, but a bit slower. Makes perfect sense, if you want to control the amount of ammunition the police got. Because the Indonesian police is the only user. Everybody else would use the cheaper .30 Carbine with the more available .30 M1 Carbines.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_-Carbine
The .30 Stoll (Named after the Austrian Colonel Walter Stoll)
www.municion.org/30/30Stoll.h-tm
www.waffenbuecher.com/MoeDiv/CD.h-tm
The ammunition resembles a .30 Carbine proof cartridge with it's spitzer bullet and was highly possible derived from it. The concept was to replace the Stg. 58 (FN FAL) with a UZI-like SMG in .30 Stoll up to 200 m and use a MG and Sniper rifle up to 1000 m. The project was abandoned with the rise of the 5.56x45 and Colonel


Archibald Tuttle

31. · 22.06.2010 21:11
7mm PENNA
www.7penna.biz/7penna.htm
www-.municion.org/penna/7x23.htm
www.jan-es.com/articles/Janes-Ammunition-Hand-book/7-mm-Penna-cartridges-Italy.html-
www.fsdip.com/website/Events/IWA200-7/tabid/63/Default.aspx
… another 7.62x25mm Tokarev – copy, like the 7.92x24mm. Not bad, but nothing special.
Pindad Sabhara/Police V1-V2 (FN FNC copy) in 7.62 x 45 mm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindad_SS1 -
www.pindad.com/prodgul800.php?bahasa-=2&varkdnews=JTSRV1
www.pindad.com/p-rodgul800.php?bahasa=2&varkdnews=MU76-2
(not to confuse with the Czech cartridge of the same name) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x45mm_vz._5-2
It's rather a very long .30 Carbine that should fit longer magazines (almost the same length as the 5.56x45mm). The same 7 g bullet in a longer


ariel

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30. · 17.03.2010 10:42
hello.first i wanted to send you an email from gmail but its not possible.second we use in the romanian army an akmsu in 7.62x39.thanks


Gorg

29. · 24.01.2010 21:33
Hello


Robert Johnson

28. · 13.01.2010 4:59
When will the pdw be available to law enforcement


Max Rodriguez

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27. · 24.11.2009 22:12
very interesting site, thanks for all the info ­


Archibald Tuttle

26. · 23.11.2009 21:25
Uzi-style PDW called MSMC from India in 5.56x30 mm.
Pic - half way down
Text - bottom of page
http://www.network54.com/Forum/-242808/thread/1203761488/1208723026/T-ATA+to+lead+the+Future+Indian+Soldier-+Program+%28F-INSAS%29


Archibald Tuttle

25. · 10.07.2009 13:51
Detail pics of the STG 90/SGC42 bullpup posted here earlier. Still no specs.
http://www.gun-world.net/swiz-/wf_bern/c42.htm


Archibald Tuttle

24. · 17.04.2009 8:15
http://www.cbjtech.com/default.asp


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